American Dissident Voices broadcast of December 30, 2017
by Kevin Alfred Strom
SONNY Thomas of Resolution Radio and I shared thoughts and ideas on his up-and-coming alternative media network on his program two weeks ago — so let’s rejoin that interview now. When we left off last time, we were discussing the potential for our race to free itself from the bonds of Earth and seed the stars with life. Listen:
ST: I think once we get together as a species on this planet, then we can go out there and explore the Cosmos and see what else is out there. But if we can’t get our stuff settled here, we need to stay here until we do.
KAS: I don’t know if I agree with you, Sonny. I don’t think the racial problem is ever going to be “solved” — if by that you mean we’re all going to get together and “live in harmony.” I think that the races need to be separate. We can’t survive in a multiracial society. The birthrates of other races are apparently always going to be higher than ours — we have an extraordinarily low birthrate compared to other races. Therefore we can’t have them in our territory, or we’ll be wiped out. First we’ll become a powerless minority, and then we’ll be wiped out. We need White living space.
And I’m telling you — while I don’t think we’re ready for it yet — if someday somebody who is like Elon Musk squared comes up with a way to successfully colonize another world, particularly another planet on another star system, with a thousand or 10,000 of the best and brightest minds of the White race — and has the wisdom to not bring along any Jews or Blacks or other races — then I would say we need to go for that. Because that may be our one chance to survive if the Earth does not survive. Actually, the Earth’s not going to survive. It’s inevitable. The Earth is going to become unlivable — for human life and eventually for all life. So we eventually have to do that.
Not only do we have to do it, but we have to do it before the fossil fuels run out. And right now, what are we using the fossil fuels for? Well, we’re making and importing forty trillion pieces of plastic junk from China to be sold in Walmart. We’re using our fossil fuels so we can drive back and forth on the highways 40,000 times a year. We’re driving our SUVs down to the grocery store. We’re using our fossil fuels to power 4-megawatt transmitters so our people can watch garbage TV shows and lies. We’re squandering them.
I am not saying the National Alliance advocates a trip to the stars now, because we’re not ready. But the National Alliance does advocate racial separation, because racial separation is a prerequisite for survival — and preservation of the unique genome that makes us what we are, that makes us special. So we have to have racial separation. Ultimately, we have to have better brains than we have now — brains that can figure out how to meet the huge challenges we’re inevitably going to face; and to seed the stars with our kind of life.
ST: I agree. I was having a discussion with a friend of mine the other day about the issue of “democracy” and how we try to “bring democracy” to other countries. It always amazes me that, for example, another decides to try a different form of government — say, Italy decides to adopt Fascism under Benito Mussolini —
ST: Or Germany going from the monarchy to the Weimar Republic — which was obviously a sham — and then became National Socialist Germany. And Russia became fully Communist. How is it that we decided we were going to allow a Communist country to do whatever it wanted to do to its people, no questions asked, and yet when Italy wanted a new form of government called Fascism and Germany wanted a new form of government called National Socialism, we decided that those two forms of government were not acceptable. Not only did we kick out everyone in those governments, and wipe out everyone in those political parties that could possibly have risen again, but at the same time we allowed Communism to flourish. Then later on we realized that Communism was bad, then we had an enemy — and the Cold War began.
How is it that we can go into a sovereign nation and say, “You can’t have this form of government. We’re not going to allow you to have it. We don’t agree with your financial arrangements. We’re going to do a regime change” — and get away with it? That by definition is a war crime.
KAS: I think so. I think the whole concept that you detailed is preposterous. And it’s also a sham. It’s not sincere. I think that the reality is that, starting in the 1930s (and continuing right up to now with Donald Trump) the American people lost control of their own government. And now our government is basically run by Jews. The US opposes or supports other governments, based to a large extent on what the Jews want us to do.
For example, when the Soviet Union, under Communism, was largely run by Jews, then the Roosevelt administration tended to favor it to a very large degree. But when the Soviet government decided to clamp down on the Jews, and Jews became a waning influence on the Soviet Union, then almost all of a sudden the Soviet Union became a great enemy and we had to oppose it. It didn’t happen overnight, and people don’t get convinced of things overnight, so it was a gradual turn. But over the course of a decade the change was pretty profound.
That was also the reason the US opposed National Socialist Germany. It had nothing to do with the amount of freedom people had in National Socialist Germany, which was probably very comparable to what people enjoyed in the United States. That’s just an excuse.
It’s just like the situation in the Middle East in the last few decades. Our government didn’t oppose Saddam Hussein because he “oppressed his people.” Probably, people in the largely secular Republic of Iraq were more free than most of the people in the Middle East. They were under a secular government and not a fundamentalist Islamic government. So that had nothing to do with it. And the so-called Weapons of Mass Destruction were another sham — they never existed. The real reason for war was that Israel wants to be dominant in the Middle East, and Israel did not like a strong, secular, powerful, well-organized Iraq very close by. They wanted Iraq to have a divided, fundamentalist nutcase government, with all the different fundamentalist factions at each other’s throats, they wanted chaos, and they wanted weakness — and that’s what war brought to Iraq.
And they want the same thing in Syria. It has nothing to do with, “Oh, Assad is a dictator and we must bring down the dictator” — that’s complete nonsense. It’s all about destroying the power of Syria and making Syria into a weak, chaotic country ruled by fundamentalist nutcases of one kind or another. That’s what Israel wants.
And that’s why America went to war in World War 2, and that’s why we’re still going to war today. It all because that’s what the Jews want. The Jews have effectively stolen our government from us. In fact, I think that’s why a lot of Americans, particularly White Americans, basically hate government. It’s because most of them have lived their whole lives under a government that hates them. It’s not even their own government. It’s a tyrannical government run by billionaire aliens — billionaire Jews. It does not work for our own interests. People in this country don’t know what it’s like to live under a government that actually looks out for its people’s best interests. If we had that kind of a government, I suspect you’d see a lot of anti-government conservative types all of a sudden saying, “Hey, this government isn’t so bad.” But they’ve never lived under a good government. So they don’t know what it’s like.
ST: I think that more people are starting to realize that — they get that “ah hah!” moment. They realize: “Why have I always been told that we shouldn’t even talk about this particular group, or this particular issue?” It’s because they don’t want you to know about it. Most people think that the ADL was created after “the Holocaust.” Oh, no. It was created long before, after the Federal Reserve Act was passed in 1913. Not 1945. It’s pretty obvious that they did that because they wanted to cover up the fact that most of the banksters “happen to be Jewish.” They were behind the Federal Reserve Act Not only did they get their stooge Woodrow Wilson to sign that Act, but they got him to break his promise that he was not going to involve us in the Great War, which he then did anyway. The purposely used the sinking of the Lusitania as a trigger mechanism, and got us involved in a war that we never should have been in in the first place. No more brother’s wars — that’s what we really need to be saying now.
KAS: Yes. It seems that again and again and again, the American people fall for the same trick: There’s some sort of arranged event — whether it be the Lusitania or Pearl Harbor (I exposed the truth about Pearl Harbor again recently on National Vanguard, which serves as the online magazine of the National Alliance), all the way up to the Gulf of Tonkin incident and the ridiculous, preposterous excuses given for the endless so-called War on Terror that we’re waging for Israel in the Middle East right now. So yes, the American people have fallen for that garbage time and time and time again.
The National Alliance, of which I’m the Media Director, is trying to build — not a numerical majority, but a majority of will and determination to do what we need to do to survive. If we don’t — and it’s all on us — we’re going to die.
ST: Yes. It’s going to be just like the original Planet of the Apes — where Taylor is thrown in a cage with Nova, and Nova can barely even talk, much less fend for herself. So that’s exactly what they want to turn us into. That’s their reality, not the reality I want to choose, but definitely the reality they want to put us in.
KAS: That reality can already be seen in Baltimore, Maryland. Just drive through Baltimore — or Detroit, Michigan — and you can see that reality. It looks like there was a war — a war that the subhumans won and the humans lost.
ST: I think I saw a report today that said Fort Myers or Fort Lauderdale and St. Louis are the most crime-ridden cities in the United States. Chicago may be the murder capital of the United States, but those are the two most crime-ridden cities. And we know which particular ethnic group is causing that.
KAS: Yes. Although I stated earlier that I hoped that Louis Farrakhan becomes the head boss in charge of the Black community, not just because he’s the best hope they have but because he’s a separatist, it nevertheless has to be acknowledged that the Black race is at a far lower level of biological development, on average, than our race. Wherever they go, they prove this.
People have been trying to “save” the Blacks of Africa, spending huge amounts of money, shipping in food, shipping in missionaries, shipping in huge quantities of infrastructure materials and building infrastructure and giving it to them — and no matter what is done, the people of Black Africa return to savagery and even cannibalism; primitivism in every possible way. Wherever that genome goes — whether it’s Africa, or Florida, or Chicago; it doesn’t matter — they bring the same sort of behaviors and social problems. Clearly, that is the most massive and obvious proof of racial inequality you could ever want.
If you look at the genome of Blacks, compared with other races, you will find that there is strong evidence that they have followed a very different evolutionary path than any other race. One proof of that is that there is far more genetic diversity — far more variability — in Blacks’ gene-patterns than there is of those of any other race, by far. What that means is that, long ago, the other races — non-Blacks — diverged off the evolutionary path they had shared with Blacks. We branched off from Blacks. Then we went through some sort of selective event. It was an event that greatly decreased our numbers — probably almost wiped us out. That’s why we have less genetic diversity. And that selective event, whatever it was, also selected us for higher intelligence, a different kind of intelligence, different kind of character and behavior than what the Blacks have. That’s why they’re so different from us: They didn’t go through that selective event. That selective event caused us to have greater frontal cortex development. The Blacks didn’t experience that.
ST: Switching gears a little bit; I’ve posted links to a lot of stories from National Vanguard on social media over the last two or three years, even sharing them in “deplorable” groups on Facebook, giving those people some information they probably wouldn’t have come across before. Let me ask a two-part question: Have you seen an uptick in the site’s viewership? And are people more willing to read alternative media like National Vanguard?
KAS: Of course I don’t know what people are thinking in their private thoughts. I have no way of knowing that. But the audience for our Web sites, which include natall.com and nationalvanguard.org, has seen a slow but steady growth over the last four years. Our growth didn’t really seem to coincide directly with the Trump campaign, nor did it coincide directly with the all the publicity given the so-called “alt-right” phenomenon. But I think those events have helped — though that’s just speculation on my part.
I do see our audience growing. For example, right now National Vanguard has reached the same number of readers online as my local newspaper has here in Johnstown, Pennsylvania; the same level as a mainstream regional newspaper, the Johnstown Tribune-Democrat.
We’ve already passed several large Jewish groups in terms of audience size: The Wiesenthal Center only has about a quarter of the audience of nationalvanguard.org. I think we have something like six to eight times the audience of the American Jewish Committee’s Web site. To me, that’s pretty impressive. In the past, they were way above us, and now we have multiples of their readership.
We have approximately one quarter of the audience of the Republican party’s national Web site. We have almost half the audience of Hillary Clinton’s party, the Democratic party at democrats.org. That is unprecedented for us.
Now I am not saying we have the highest ratings of any racialist organization. We don’t. There are some “alt-right” Web sites that are doing even better than we are — and more power to them; we need some gateways to the hard truths of the National Alliance, and I don’t begrudge them their success. But on the other hand, some alt-right sites tend to water down their White racialism as they try to appeal to the maximum number of people. We, however, are absolutely uncompromising and hard core — we have a “we need White living space and must defeat the Jewish power structure to get it” kind of ideology. So for us to be having these kinds of numbers is extraordinary.
Now, what did Trump have to do with that? I don’t think he had anything to do with it directly. But it just so happens that he decided — and in my opinion, he was being deceptive — but he decided to appeal to the nationalist instinct in many White Americans. And when he did that, it was almost like giving permission to White Americans — who have been keeping their heads down and keeping their mouths shut for years — to finally say some of things that have been on their minds. Suddenly the Overton Window shifted because of the Trump campaign. So people are bolder now. They’re not keeping their heads down so much. And they’re becoming more radicalized.
A second wave is occurring as the younger people see all this and are getting radicalized too. As there’s suddenly more freedom of speech on the subject of race, young people — and even some middle-aged people like me — are being radicalized. It’s sort of like a snowball picking up speed — and picking up mass — as it rolls down the mountain. I am very energized and encouraged by that. I am very pleased with the increasing number of people reading National Vanguard — it’s very pleasing to me.
ST: Yes, I’ve seen the rise of a lot of both alt-right and alt-lite Web sites…
KAS: If you look at the Simon Wiesenthal Center, Sonny — one of the leading Jewish hate groups — you’ll see they have a $27 million annual budget. They hate White people, and especially hate racially conscious White people. With that $27 million, I assume they have quite a staff. And yet our audience — our little Web site, National Vanguard — with five people working on it, all of them volunteers, and with a budget very close to zero dollars per year — not $27 million — we have four times the audience they do. Just imagine what we could do if we had a little funding and a real staff.
ST: I agree.
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You’ve been listening to Sonny Thomas interview yours truly, Kevin Alfred Strom. This interview has been edited for broadcast. You can listen to the entire program on the Resolution Radio Network. We’ll return with more of this interview next week, right here on American Dissident Voices.
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